https://open.spotify.com/episode/14wiX0ogUv6cJhN5FrvXvc?si=kGIY5JhBQWq-BwoAohB42g
https://stand.fm/episodes/68199546f55116225ec7cf87
▼ 過去放送をVoicyで探す
https://r.voicy.jp/0pvmbkvZ9eA