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2035
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Delphi Intelligence leverages the researcher, builder, and investor perspectives across the hivemind to recreate the flywheel that allowed us to excel in crypto. Now in podcast form, hear the best insights in the AI sector on the 2035 podcast!
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Delphi Intelligence leverages the researcher, builder, and investor perspectives across the hivemind to recreate the flywheel that allowed us to excel in crypto. Now in podcast form, hear the best insights in the AI sector on the 2035 podcast!
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Rawson Haverty presents "US & China AI: Lessons from Across the Pacific" | dAGI Summit 2025
2035
20 minutes 19 seconds
1 week ago
Rawson Haverty presents "US & China AI: Lessons from Across the Pacific" | dAGI Summit 2025

Rawson contrasts the US and Chinese AI ecosystems through culture, history, and market design. The US channels deep capital into fast-forming, efficient oligopolies that drive closed, frontier models and a massive compute build-out; China orchestrates a state-guided “swarm” that rapidly diffuses (often open-source) AI across industry, leveraging dense supply chains and process skill—but with thinner margins and policy constraints. Capital and AI are framed as parallel forces that centralize if unchecked; each country fears a different failure mode (US: centralized authority; China: disorder). Looking ahead, today’s US lead meets China’s long-term industrial advantages, suggesting a durable, competitive race. The recommended path is a balanced “narrow corridor” that blends US frontier strengths with China’s diffusion strengths—seeking modular, widely accessible intelligence while avoiding both elite techno-feudalism and chaotic collapse.Key takeaways▸ Speaker & lens: Early-stage AI/robotics investor with experience in the US and China; goal is to compare AI market structures and cultures.▸ China’s dualities: Modern infrastructure yet widespread low incomes; strong tech/manufacturing innovation amid macro softness (property, LG debt, youth unemployment); open-source AI leadership despite the Great Firewall; globalization’s winner now pushing self-sufficiency.▸ US vs China—opposites and mirrors: Freedom vs stability/harmony; individual vs family unit; over-consumption vs over-production; democracy vs autocracy—yet each also reflects the other’s excesses (“fearful mirror” idea).▸ Historical roots shape instincts: US frontier ethos → skepticism of centralized authority; China’s recurring upheavals → preference for order and stability (especially among older generations).▸ Different views of capital:* US: Capital as expression of freedom/market choice (but concentrates power via money/compute).* China: Capital as instrument of national priorities (internet crackdown as example).▸ Capital ≈ AI: Both optimize for efficiency/automation; they centralize power if unchecked. The US tends to fear centralized authority; China tends to fear disorder.▸ Market structure archetypes:* US “efficient oligopoly”: Deep capital markets quickly crown category leaders—efficient allocation and reinvestment, but concentrated power and higher prices.* China “subjugated swarm”: State sets direction; provinces fund many firms → Darwinian competition; strengths in volume/quality/cost and process know-how, but lower margins, “involution,” and rising trade pushback.▸ AI ecosystems & priorities:* US: Massive compute build-out, closed frontier models, aim at AGI/ASI and “human transcendence,” global distribution.* China: Tighter cross-sector coordination, rapid diffusion of AI across society, prioritizes open-source/commoditization—useful but can embed political biases.▸ Now vs later: US leads today (chips/compute/users), but long-run trends (power generation, open-source uptake, robotics/industrial base) could tilt some advantages toward China; expect a long, competitive race.▸ Modular vs vertical: Vertically integrated stacks lead now; the speaker expects a gradual shift toward more modular intelligence (distributed incentives harnessing long-tail compute/data/talent), though it’s hard.▸ AI is physical & geopolitical: Energy, fabs, robots, and data centers anchor AI to nation-states → emerging competing operating systems (US stack ≈ Global North; China ≈ parts of Global South).▸ Governance “narrow corridor”: Need balance between strong institutions and strong civil society to avoid AI-induced totalitarianism on one side or anarchy/uncontrolled SI on the other.▸ Complementary strengths: US (frontier, software, 0→1, freedom) + China (diffusion, hardware, 1→n, stability). The tragedy is worsening ties despite potential complementarity; call for mutual curiosity and learning.

2035
Delphi Intelligence leverages the researcher, builder, and investor perspectives across the hivemind to recreate the flywheel that allowed us to excel in crypto. Now in podcast form, hear the best insights in the AI sector on the 2035 podcast!