Premise is everything when it comes to shaping a strong show. It allows the audience to understand immediately where they’re headed, which brings us to 2 Pages with MBS, a podcast where brilliant people read the best two pages of a favorite book…a book that has shaped them and changed them. Host Michael Bungay Stanier chats with authors, leaders, activists, academics, entrepreneurs, change agents, and celebrities as they dig into the ideas that matter the most. Inside today’s episode, as timely as ever, Jay and MBS discuss tackling interviews from unconventional angles, challenging their guests to speak from the heart, and how to get straight to “the personal” as well as captivating ideas. MBS has written books that have sold about a million copies all told, including The Coaching Habit, a self-published book that’s become the best-selling book on coaching this century. He founded a training and development company, Box of Crayons, that has taught coaching skills to hundreds of thousands of people around the world. And he’s been been named #1 Thought Leader in Coaching and a Coaching Guru. EXPLORE THE SHOW Visit https://3clipspodcast.com for all episodes of the show.  LEARN MORE ABOUT 3 CLIPS HOST JAY ACUNZO Subscribe to his newsletter, explore his course for podcasters, or watch and listen to all of Jay’s shows and projects at http://jayacunzo.com  LEARN MORE ABOUT CASTOS 3 Clips is a Castos Original Series. Castos provides tools for public and private podcasts and believes podcasters should own their turf to provide the best possible audience experience. Visit http://castos.com  INSIDE THIS EPISODE:  2 Pages with MBS can be found at: https://www.mbs.works/2-pages-podcast/ Tweet at host MBS here: https://twitter.com/mbs_works Follow 3 Clips host Jay Acunzo on Twitter here: https://twitter.com/jayacunzo/ This episode was produced by Jude Brewer. Learn more: www.judebrewer.com Music provided by Tyler Littwin