Welcoming my friend and long-time creator, Zanna Van Dijk to 9 Lives! Getting to know Zanna over the past 6 months has been an absolute joy and this conversation really encapsulates the inspiration and empowerment that I - and hundreds of thousands of others - draw from Zanna's experiences and mindset.

This chat is one about finding balance after burn out, maintaining friendships in adulthood and creating boundaries among many more topics.Hope you take something from this and in Zanna's words, don't forget to slow down and look after yourself.

Love always,

Cass xx

(00:15) Introducing Zanna

(03:47) Zanna's 4 Lives

(06:55) Fear and bravery

(12:00) Advice for beginner runners (15:19) Productivity and juggling life's responsibilities

(20:00) Where do you attach your value?

(20:55) Nothing is worth your health

(24:55) Refining success through friendship

(27:43) How to find new friendships in adulthood

(37:40) Setting boundaries

(41:44) Hosting hiking trips all over the world

(47:47) Jody Lynn Poem