This week on A Load of BS on Sport, Daniel Ross and Dan Biggar sit down with rugby legend Sam Warburton - two-time British & Irish Lions captain and former Wales captain who led from the front for over a decade at the highest level.

In this deeply personal and revealing conversation, Sam opens up about the psychological realities behind elite captaincy, sharing his unique "Four P's" leadership framework that guided him through some of rugby's biggest moments. From leading legends like Brian O'Driscoll and Paul O'Connell on Lions tours to managing his own crippling self-doubt, Sam reveals the mental strategies that made him one of rugby's most respected leaders.

This isn't your typical "glory days" rugby chat. Sam candidly discusses why he only enjoyed 20% of his career, the obsessive attention to detail that drove his success (including a chocolate drawer with rival players' names), and the relief he felt upon retirement. He shares fascinating insights into the delegation principles that made his captaincy so effective, why he surrounded himself with strong personalities rather than yes-men, and how sports psychology shaped his entire approach to leadership.

From the pressures of captaining the Lions at just 24 to finding freedom in life after rugby, Sam's honesty about the darker sides of elite sport makes this essential listening for anyone interested in leadership, performance psychology, or the real cost of sporting excellence.

Episode Highlights:

• The "Four P's" leadership framework that guided his captaincy
• Why he only enjoyed 20% of his professional career
• Leading rugby legends on two Lions tours
• The psychology behind his famous self-doubt
• His obsessive preparation methods and attention to detail
• The committee system that made Wales so successful
• Life after rugby and the freedom of retirement
• Why strong leaders surround themselves with challengers, not yes-men
• The role of sports psychology in elite performance
• Honest reflections on imposter syndrome at the highest level

Memorable Quotes

• "Weak leaders love weak people around them... strong leaders actually get really challenging, good people around them."
• "I doubt myself because I trust myself."
• "The 20% of success outweighs the 80% tenfold."
• "When you retire from rugby, you might finish playing the game, but you don't leave the game."
• "Lions don't worry about the opinions of sheep."
• "Any leader, no matter what you are, you've got to walk the walk and show people the way."
• "What you put in in life is what you get back."

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