Jake and Jason dive into the “what do we actually do?” of it all. They rewind to the early days, just the two of them running small free workshops, and trace how that scrappy start grew into bigger stories, camps, and events. They share their best and worst camp memories, how birthday parties accidentally became a whole thing, and what they love… and not-so-love about doing in-school classes. Along the way, they recall how their approach to events has evolved, paint a picture of how they incorporate spiritual messages into the stories, and reveal how camp shows have a weird tendency to echo real life (like a storm in the script foreshadowing an actual storm that shuts down an entire camp!) Plus, they peek ahead at their Beetlejuice camp and their first-ever international leap to Hong Kong. 🎧 New episodes every Wednesday!   📸 Follow us: Instagram → @abstractchats TikTok → @abstract.chats Everywhere → @abstractkidsdrama