A little bit of an interview: Vienda asks Nadia about her religious upbringing, how it shaped her and why she is an atheist today. We talk new-age spirituality based on our own experiences and how growing up Vienda connected with the spiritual world and what it means to her today. We explore if extreme devotion to either ends of the spectrum tends to be from a place of desperation and trauma rather than a healthy desire to seek deeper understanding. Strap yourselves in, it's intense.