Episode 2: Dr. Ravit Dotan | A User's Guide on How to Start with the End in Mind

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AI Ethics Navigator

Kamini Govender

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AI Ethics Navigator examines how emerging technologies are reshaping society, power, and everyday life. Hosted by Kamini Govender, each episode features researchers, advisors, and practitioners — including voices from UNESCO, the UN AI Advisory Body, and the Alan Turing Institute — exploring what ethics looks like in practice when technology meets society. Thoughtful, unhurried conversations linking ideas across disciplines and geographies, with Global South perspectives often missing from mainstream discourse. Connect with Kamini: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kamini-govender

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Episode 2: Dr. Ravit Dotan | A User's Guide on How to Start with the End in Mind

AI Ethics Navigator

1 hour 3 minutes 33 seconds

3 weeks ago

Episode 2: Dr. Ravit Dotan | A User's Guide on How to Start with the End in Mind

Originally published: 8 Oct 2025

Guest: Dr Ravit Dotan | AI Ethicist | Speaker | Researcher

Dr Ravit Dotan is a philosopher and AI ethicist named among the "100 Brilliant Women in AI Ethics" (2023) and a "Responsible AI Leader of the Year" (2025) finalist. Her work has been featured in The New York Times and CNBC, and honored with a distinguished Paper award from FAccT. Dr Ravit Dotan is the founder and CEO of TechBetter, an organization that helps people and organizations use AI ethically to do meaningful work.

Topic: A user's guide on how to start with the end in mind

In this episode, we explore:

The "takeout approach" vs. the "chef approach": Dr Dotan critiques using AI to produce final outputs (emails, outlines, summaries) and instead advocates for using AI to create processes you go through yourself—where you remain the one thinking and deciding when work is complete

"Think first, prompt later": Start with what you're actually trying to achieve in your work, not with the AI tool—identify how and where technology might fit into your process rather than beginning with the technology

Why cognitive decline matters: The current approach of offloading mental work leads to loss of expertise and replacement anxiety—using AI for your core work (where your expertise lies) rather than peripheral tasks changes everything

Value-aligned system prompts: The practical technique of designing AI processes with your values and ethical guidelines built in from the start—making ethics inseparable from AI adoption rather than a separate compliance exercise

What you'll understand after listening: A concrete framework for using AI that deepens rather than replaces your thinking—and why the hype around AI agents is finally giving way to more thoughtful adoption.

“I had the pleasure of interviewing for Kamini Govender’s podcast, the AI Ethics Navigator. Kamini is one of the best podcast interviewers I’ve worked with, seriously. She has such great questions!” Dr Ravit Dotan

Episode length: 1 hour 3 minutes

Connect with Kamini: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kamini-govender