Like a morning glory, today Jen + Lillian discuss a topic near and dear to our hearts: queer late bloomers! As fat femmes, we get really granular with how and why queerness can stay elusive for so long (hint: you know it's fatphobia and misogyny!). Come for the TED Talk, stay for the wayward perms and butch longing.

PS - It's Babies' First Episode on new software, so we know this one sounds a little funky! We'll get it much better next time.