Welcome back to All Things Considered CX! In today's episode, Bob Azman sits down with Nemo Neal, though you might know him better as the chief of design at Mozee, and by his DJ handle, Nemo.

Nemo joins us from inside one of Mozee's autonomous development vehicles to share his unconventional journey from insurance salesman and DJ to automotive design leader. Together, Bob and Nemo dig deep into the future of autonomous vehicles, the power of parallel thinking in design, and why it’s critical to understand not just what end users want—but why they want it.

You’ll hear how Nemo and the team at Mozee are reimagining urban mobility for cities, campuses, resorts, and beyond, harnessing next-generation technology like Generative Perception Intelligence (GPI) to build smarter, safer, and more connected transportation. Plus, Nemo opens up about keeping creativity alive amidst pragmatism and what it means to design experiences people haven’t even dreamed of yet.

If you’re curious about innovation at the intersection of technology, design, and customer experience—or just looking for some real inspiration to shake up your own approach—this episode is for you. Let’s dive in!