Our American Alchemist this week is Dr. Gregory Rogers. He shares his extraordinary experiences as a chief flight surgeon for the US Air Force and NASA, including a shocking encounter with a UFO in 1992. He discusses the implications of David Grush's testimony regarding military involvement with alien technology, the role of EG&G in UFO research, and the mysteries surrounding Flight 19 and the Bermuda Triangle. The conversation delves into secrecy, disclosure, and the intersection of science and the unknown. This powerful exchange challenges us to confront the hidden truths behind UFOs, the burdens carried by those on the front lines, and the urgent call for real disclosure that could reshape our understanding of reality. | Greg Rodgers | Contact ➤ https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-gregory-rogers-former-nasa-air-force-senior-flight-surgeon-9727681bb?original_referer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F Media ➤ https://www.newsweek.com/nasa-official-flying-saucer-ufo-aliens-2068382 | Thanks To Our Sponsors | HEXCLAD: Find your forever cookware @hexclad and get 10% off at https://hexclad.com/JESSE #hexcladpartner MUDWTR: Start your new morning ritual & get up to 43% off your @MUDWTR with code [JESSE] at https://ambassadors.mudwtr.com/JESSE #mudwtrpod iRestore: Reverse hair loss with @iRestorelaser and unlock HUGE savings on the iRestore Elite with the code [ALCHEMY] at https://www.irestore.com/ALCHEMY -------------------------- JOIN OUR WHOP (Early Drops/Ad Free) ➤ https://whop.com/jessemichels Patreon (Early Drops/Ad Free) ➤ https://www.patreon.com/c/JesseMichels Discord ➤https://discord.gg/crHc44m3kF Instagram ➤ https://www.instagram.com/jessemichelsofficial TikTok ➤ https://www.tiktok.com/@itsjessemichels X ➤ https://twitter.com/AlchemyAmerican Spotify ➤ https://tinyurl.com/jessemichelsspotify Clips Channel ➤ https://www.youtube.com/@JesseMichelsClips Website ➤ https://www.jesse-michels.com/ Merchandise ➤ https://www.americanalchemymerch.com/ Media Inquiries ➤ mike@jessemichelsmedia.com #NASA #Disclosure #GregRodgers Chapters 00:00 Unveiling the Secrets of Aerospace Medicine 02:36 The Testimony of David Grush 05:30 Dr. Gregory Rogers: A Witness to the Unseen 08:30 The Role of EG&G in UFO Research 11:43 Flight 19 and the Bermuda Triangle Mysteries 14:52 Experiences Beyond the Ordinary 17:38 The Encounter with the UFO 20:51 The Craft: Description and Characteristics 23:31 The Implications of Reverse Engineering 26:43 The Aftermath of the Encounter 29:33 Reflections on Disclosure and Secrecy 01:11:22 The Early Fascination with UFOs 01:14:15 The Impact of 2017 and the New York Times Article 01:19:09 The Testimony of David Grush and Reverse Engineering 01:22:33 The Personal Struggles with PTSD 01:27:29 The Weight of Experience and Trauma 01:34:15 The Intersection of Science and Belief 01:39:57 The Limitations of Current Cosmological Models 01:48:07 The Future of Disclosure and UAPs 02:20:27 The Need for Meaningful Disclosure 02:28:32 Legacy and Recognition in UFO Discourse Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices