While President Trump continues to spread misinformation about the 2020 election results, talk show host Zerlina Maxwell is calling for the end of white politics. This week on, “And That’s That” Taryn and Shaquille talk with Maxwell, author of “The End of White Politics: How to Heal Our Liberal Divide,” about the future of the Democratic Party, rising progressive stars such as Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Rep. Jamaal Bowman and how Trump used identity politics to win the 2016 election.

“Donald Trump ran on identity politics too,” Maxwell told HuffPost. “White is an identity. And he effectively exploited that in order to play to certain types of voters, frankly. He did that even more so in 2020, but I think in 2016, Americans were a little bit naive about the fact that he was playing to white identity with explicitly racist messaging.”

Also on this episode, Shaquille and Taryn chat about Aunty Dionne’s Twitter fingers and the Verzuz battle everyone’s waiting for: Ashanti versus Keyshia Cole.

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