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Anecdotally Speaking
Shawn Callahan & Mark Schenk
284 episodes
2 days ago
Welcome to our podcast, Anecdotally Speaking. Each week we tell a business story, talk about why it works and discuss where you might tell it at work. Our aim is to help you build your story repertoire.
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Welcome to our podcast, Anecdotally Speaking. Each week we tell a business story, talk about why it works and discuss where you might tell it at work. Our aim is to help you build your story repertoire.
Show more...
Management
Education,
Business
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258 – A Memorial in Mashed Potato – Maya Lin
Anecdotally Speaking
16 minutes 11 seconds
4 months ago
258 – A Memorial in Mashed Potato – Maya Lin
Discover how creativity under constraint led to one of the world’s most distinctive memorials.

In Episode 258 of Anecdotally Speaking, Shawn shares the inspiring story of Maya Lin, the 21-year-old architecture student who, against all odds, designed the Vietnam War Memorial. What started as a university assignment transformed into an enduring masterpiece.
Mark and Shawn explore several key business lessons: how constraints can foster creativity, the importance of early prototyping and how anonymity can remove bias in decision-making. They also discuss the underestimated capabilities of young people and how early recognition can shape a career.
You’ll come away with multiple business points from a single story, perfect for innovation, design thinking, or talent development conversations.
References:
Menand, Louis. “Maya Lin, the Reluctant Memorialist.” The New Yorker, 8 July 2002, pp. 55–65, https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2002/07/08/maya-lin-the-reluctant-memorialist
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Tags: Creativity, Innovation, Design, Bias, Talent Development, Storytelling
This story starts at 1:23
In 1980, a national competition was launched to design a Vietnam War Memorial in Washington, D.C. The brief came with three key constraints: the memorial had to be apolitical, it had to list the names of all 57,000+ fallen U.S. soldiers, and it needed to blend into the landscape rather than stand out.
More than 1,400 designs were submitted. The winning design, chosen unanimously by the panel, came from Maya Lin, a 21-year-old undergraduate architecture student at Yale University.
Maya had been studying memorial design in her class when her professor mentioned the competition. He encouraged students to submit something as part of a school assignment, and even submitted a design himself. When he graded Maya’s submission, he gave it a B+, and he didn’t win the competition.
After visiting the D.C. site with her class, Maya immediately envisioned the memorial as a scar carved into the landscape, an architectural metaphor for the pain and trauma of the war. She imagined a long, descending cut into the earth, with a polished black granite surface that would reflect the viewer’s image alongside the engraved names. It would be both a place of memory and of personal reflection.
The very first version of her concept was sculpted spontaneously using mashed potatoes in the university dining hall.
Despite her lack of experience, and without the jury knowing her identity, background, or gender, Maya’s design was selected. The anonymous nature of the competition eliminated any bias related to her being a young, Asian-American woman still in university.
The memorial was controversial at first, partly because of her background and the simplicity of the design. But over time, it became recognised as a masterpiece of architectural and emotional power.
Anecdotally Speaking
Welcome to our podcast, Anecdotally Speaking. Each week we tell a business story, talk about why it works and discuss where you might tell it at work. Our aim is to help you build your story repertoire.