What happens when even "no meaning" becomes another thing to cling to? In this episode, we explore Case 80 from the Book of Equanimity—“Ryūge Passes the Chin Rest.” Ryūge asks the classic question: What is the meaning of the Patriarch’s coming from the West? Two teachers respond with action, not explanation. Two blows. Same question. Same mistake. This is a talk about the traps we create around insight—how we turn experience into doctrine, and silence into a stance. It’s about the moment when you stop trying to figure it out, and life steps in. We follow Ryūge from conceptual certainty to the slow-burning truth that real freedom doesn’t explain itself.