What happens when the strategies that built your success begin to hollow you out? Judi Holler shares the story she never planned to tell: how building a seven-figure business, listening to too many “experts,” and chasing the next level led her into burnout, disconnection, and a spiritual reckoning. This conversation explores identity loss after success, the danger of outsourcing self-trust, the role of spirituality and human design in self-leadership, and how awareness (especially discomfort) can become your most powerful signal back to alignment. Judi's Soul Dives - https://stan.store/HOLLAVERSE/p/soul-dive-with-judi Timestamps 00:00 — The question that opens every interview: “Who are you?” 02:30 — Why success can make identity more fragile, not stronger 05:10 — The moment external advice drowned out inner knowing 07:45 — “I was going bankrupt internally while everyone else got rich” 10:30 — The dark spiral: money loss, confidence loss, self-loss 13:00 — The difference between brain safety and soul truth 15:20 — Practical self-leadership when you still have bills to pay 18:40 — Scheduling spirituality instead of waiting for stillness 22:10 — Finding peace inside chaos (even Times Square) 25:30 — Human Design as a map back to alignment 29:00 — Why bitterness is a warning signal, not a flaw 32:15 — Projectors, decision-making, and riding emotional waves 36:40 — Why most leadership cultures block creativity 40:00 — Improv, failure, and psychological safety at work 44:30 — Recreation as the fastest path to reinvention 48:00 — Who Judi is becoming now 50:00 — Final reflections on self-trust and expression **** Get your copy of Personal Socrates: Better Questions, Better Life   Connect with Marc >>> Website | LinkedIn | Instagram | * A special thanks to our mental fitness + sweat partner Sip Saunas. 🧠  x 🥵 = 😃 * Special props 👇 Music: Clouds - Joakim Karud See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.