In this episode, Jerry Michalski speaks with Ida Josefiina, cofounder of the social network Sane, and Doug Rushkoff, author and documentarian who studies human autonomy in a digital age, about why tools for thinking matter for society in the first place. 

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Tools for Thinking Podcast by Betaworks is a series of conversations with builders and thinkers about tools for thinking. We will cover AI, LLMs, and general machine learning, AR/VR, and other technologies catalyzing the category.
Hosted by Jerry Michalski, an American technology consultant and former managing editor of Release 1.0, a technology newsletter. Jerry is also the owner and curator of Jerry's Brain, the OG second brain (https://www.jerrysbrain.com/).
All of the episode artwork is generated by stable diffusion.