An unfiltered conversation with Kai McPhillips, a true waterman and longtime friend, in Episode 5 of Beyond The Lineup. Kai dives deep into the heart of surf culture, exposing the differences between shortboarding and longboarding, the pressures of competition, and the untold realities of the surf industry. From sharing laughs about localism and rivalry to reflecting on life-changing travels and his recent success at the 2024 Surfing for Hope Longboard event, this episode is packed with raw insights and stories that will leave you inspired. Discover what it really takes to thrive in the surfing world and why Kai believes in staying true to the art of surfing.