Inspired by the CMA's latest exhibition, French Moderns: Monet to Matisse, 1850 – 1950, host Ray McManus delves into the theme of rebellion across art movements, music, writing, and more. Curator Michael Neumeister drops by to discuss the exhibition and the way artists of this period defied academic norms and critical expectations, forging a new visual language. Next, writer Julia Liz Elliott returns to the podcast to talk about her love of surrealism, avant-garde rock music of the 1980s, her journey breaking into the literary world from the fringes, and her forthcoming anthology, Hellions.