In this episode of Black Cat Chat: The Building Podcast, Andy Clow sits down with our first non-Black Cat guests – Joseph Russell and Ian Fairweather, the founders of Allegro Real Estate. Fresh from launching their new consultancy, they share the excitement, pressure and practical realities of stepping out on their own. From early wins to tough lessons and the evolving demands of the commercial property market, this is a candid conversation about what it takes to build a business from the ground up.