Dr. Porcher & Dr. Bertrand co-host with Dr. Heidi Oliver-O'Gilvie & Dr. Crystal Edwards, to discuss the ways in which Black women lead in educational spaces and in their personal lives. They also discuss the challenges of leading as Black women during multiple pandemics. This episode is for all Black women leaders, regardless of your career space. If you want to connect with these amazing Black leaders, contact Dr. Oliver-O''Gilvie on Twitter @DrHpo and Dr. Edwards on Instagram at @Crystalsaidthat.