Fern and Audrey are back, and they're not pulling punches. After 30 years of working with survivors of satanic ritual abuse and trauma-based mind control, they've seen the church get it wrong over and over—rushing to deliverance while ignoring the broken human sitting in front of them. In this episode, they explain why that approach fails, what real healing looks like, and how to tell the difference between a demon and a dissociated part of someone's fractured mind.They also drop a bombshell: in 2015, they handed evidence of Epstein's Island to the FBI, and watched it disappear into the bureaucracy. The dismissal, they say, is just as evil as the abuse. But there's hope in this darkness. Survivors who begin to differentiate—who start to reclaim their own thoughts and recognize their value—don't go back. And the church is slowly waking up. The question Fern and Audrey leave us with is haunting: if darkness is pursuing humanity this hard, why aren't we?Not a member yet? Right now, we are running our biggest sale of the year, offering 20% off all memberships. Head over to https://blurrycreatures.com/pages/members to check it out. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices