After the last Joris Daudet / Chase debate, we received a lot of feedback and messages regarding the subject. Along with everything that was posted online, we decided we were done with it.

Since then, Joris reached out, and we spoke for some time on the phone. It was actually good to talk with him and get his side of the story. Christophe Leveque (Chase) also still had a lot more he wanted to say.

So here it is on this pod, and hopefully it’s somewhat balanced, with respect for both Christophe and Joris.

We also talked about some other things going on in the race world, from drug bans to new DRIVERS on teams, the British BMX Hall of Fame, Illinois, Nevada, and New Jersey Hall of Fames, fast ’80s riders from Vegas, and more. Check it out.

And yes, we are not journalists, as someone pointed out to us after the last pod—just a few old guys who still like to talk about racing, old and new.