In this episode of Boldly Go, hosts Rick Smith and Mike Wagers sit down with Piotr Baczynski, founder and CEO of Immersion Labs, for a deep dive into the past, present, and fast-approaching future of VR and AR. Piotr shares the unlikely origin of his company, lessons from the early days of Oculus, why VR training boosts real-world performance, how Axon and Immersion Labs partnered to build groundbreaking VR training experiences, and what the next wave of spatial computing will mean for public safety, the military, and everyday work. From motion-sickness breakthroughs to AR battlefield overlays to walking through virtual worlds inside an Axon Training Pod, this episode explores how immersive tech is rapidly reshaping human learning, communication, and safety.