Michelle and guest host, Julie McVey, tackle UnClobber: Rethinking Our Misuse of the Bible on Homosexuality by Colby Martin. Their conversation covers why the church shuns over differences in beliefs, what Scripture actually says about homosexuality, and more. From the back cover: "Churches in America are experiencing an unprecedented fracturing due to their belief and attitude toward the LGBTQ community. Armed with only six passages in the Bible—often known as the “clobber passages”—the traditional Christian position has been one that stands against the full inclusion of our LGBTQ brothers and sisters. Unclobber reexamines each of those frequently quoted passages of Scripture, alternating with author Colby Martin’s own story of being fired from an evangelical megachurch when they discovered his stance on sexuality. UnClobber reexamines what the Bible says (and does not say) about homosexuality in such a way that breathes fresh life into outdated and inaccurate assumptions and interpretations." About Julie: "I see myself as a fellow traveler among many on a transformational journey. My passions are family, relationships, creative awareness, and spiritual discoveries. I find writing to be therapeutic and a wonderful way to share my humanity, my heart, and my journey with others. I  hope you find value in some of my writings."