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Bop or Flop?
Jonah Wilkinson
26 episodes
9 months ago
Ever wondered if a musical was actually good? Join hosts MJ and Jonah as they debate the performances, plots, and puns of a variety of broadway hits to determine if the show is a bop or a flop.
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Ever wondered if a musical was actually good? Join hosts MJ and Jonah as they debate the performances, plots, and puns of a variety of broadway hits to determine if the show is a bop or a flop.
Show more...
Performing Arts
Arts
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Ep. 18 - How Could You, Curtis? - Dreamgirls (1981)
Bop or Flop?
1 hour 56 minutes
4 years ago
Ep. 18 - How Could You, Curtis? - Dreamgirls (1981)
We're finally back! We have a new years resolution for the pod, but what is it? Will we stick to it? I guess you'll have to see in this episode where Jonah and MJ discuss Dreamgirls. Between arguing wether or not CC is a coward, if artistic integrity really is everything, if this could have just been the Jennifer Holiday show, and why Jonah brought JFK up for no apparent reason, Dreamgirls made the perfect vehicle to ring in the new year.


Notes


Dreamgirls at the Tonys
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUIPKdcKKVI


More Cowbell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVsQLlk-T0s


Here’s a paper regarding cultural appropriation and music
https://www.amherst.edu/media/view/91803/original/Hall%252B-%252BAfrican-American%252BMusic%252B-%252BDynamics%252Bof%252BAppropria
tion%252Band%252BInnovation.pdf


Here’s some that are easier to read but still relevant
https://www.newyorker.com/culture/cultural-comment/the-whitewashing-of-black-music-on-tiktok

https://www.varsity.co.uk/music/20097


A brief history of payola
https://www.vice.com/en/article/64y8y9/a-brief-history-of-american-payola


Musical Diegesis
https://www.masterclass.com/articles/diegetic-sound-and-non-diegetic-sound-whats-the-difference#3-examples-of-diegetic-sound\

Somewhere That’s Green
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIvpOIUqKKA


The Devil You know from Sideshow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hP68t7uZXN4


Muppets Pictures in My Head
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCkHajMn8Yo


PRODUCTION VALUE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQa0_YhmPp0
Bop or Flop?
Ever wondered if a musical was actually good? Join hosts MJ and Jonah as they debate the performances, plots, and puns of a variety of broadway hits to determine if the show is a bop or a flop.