Breaking Complexity Podcast is a platform where we unravel the intricate, the abstract, and the unconventional across design, technology, creativity, and entrepreneurship.
Curated and co-hosted by Sushant Verma—an architect, technologist, educator, and four-time TEDx speaker—this podcast brings together thought leaders, trailblazers, and visionaries who challenge norms and redefine industries.
Each episode explores how complexity is broken down into innovation, strategy, and creative breakthroughs, sparking engaging discussions that are thought-provoking, insightful, and fun.
️ Streaming on: Spotify | Apple Podcasts | Google Podcasts | YouTube | Podcast Website
Featuring: Experts in design, architecture, technology, business, and creative fields
Format: Dynamic two-way & three-way conversations with deep insights into complex ideas
The Breaking Complexity Podcast brings together pioneers from architecture, design, AI, real estate, creative business, and emerging technology—exploring how they navigate uncertainty, innovation, and curvilinear career paths.
Does creativity require complexity? Or are we just flirting with technology?
Season 0 is the prelude to Breaking Complexity Podcast, a playful yet profound look at how technology has become an integral part of design, architecture, and creative processes. It brings together insights from Sushant Verma’s past TEDx talks, public discussions, and design dialogues with global pioneers.
A mix of fresh recordings and curated excerpts from TEDx talks, public panels, and industry discussions.
Candid insights from design pioneers & global experts from firms like Zaha Hadid Architects, Mamou-Mani Architects, Heatherwick Studio, Foster + Partners, Architectural Association (AADRL), Bartlett UCL, and more.
Deep dives into AI, computational design, digital fabrication, and emerging creative technology.
Season 0 is centered around Sushant Verma, unfolding his journey, the evolution of rat[LAB] Studio, and his experiences with design technology. It also includes glimpses from his interviews with pioneers conducted for his upcoming book, Filling the Void: Rise of Design Technologies in Architecture.
1️⃣ Flirting with Design Technologies – An Unfinished Love Story ️
2️⃣ When AI and Architecture Went on a Date ️
3️⃣ Beyond Facades – Breaking the Grid & Embracing Nonlinearity
4️⃣ Smart Education – Teaching Machines or Teaching Minds?
5️⃣ The Struggles of Dating Technology – Love, Hate & Innovation
6️⃣ Digital Fabrication – Building the Future, One Algorithm at a Time ️️
7️⃣ The Art of Complexity – Parametric Art & Algorithmic Aesthetics
8️⃣ Collaborative Flirting – When Disciplines Merge
Season 1 takes a bold, witty, and unconventional look at complexity through the lens of curves—both literal and metaphorical.
From curvilinear architecture and design innovations to nonlinear career trajectories and unconventional business strategies, this season uncovers the power of breaking the straight line.
Expect candid conversations with risk-takers, creative minds, and innovators who are shaping the future in design, business, and technology.
Topics include:
️ Curvilinear facades & interiors
️ Nonlinear career journeys
️ The business of bending rules
️ Digital fabrication & computational design
️ The philosophy of curves in nature, design, and life
Join us as we challenge conventions and reshape the narrative of complexity.
Follow Breaking Complexity Podcast for updates, guest announcements, and new episodes!
Architect | Design Technologist | Educator with 15+ years of experience in cutting-edge architecture & computational design.
Four-time TEDx Speaker – sharing insights on computational design, AI in architecture & the future of design education.
Published Author – currently working on new publications focused on design, technology & innovation.
Educator & Mentor – upskilled 3,000+ architects & designers across India and led 7 Global Visiting Schools in the UK, USA, Italy, Taiwan, Japan, Egypt, the Philippines, Ukraine, and Belarus.
️ Founder of RAT[LAB] Studio – pioneering parametric & computational design, creating futuristic facades, urban interventions, art installations & algorithm-driven spaces. Making every project iconic, no matter the size or scale!
️ Host of Breaking Complexity Podcast – engaging with leaders & innovators across industries who are redefining the future.
Avid Photographer – capturing different genres for many years as a creative passion.
Passionate about entrepreneurship, meaningful conversations & smart networking – always up for discussing design, creativity, technology & the future of architecture.
Check out Sushant Verma’s TEDx talks & global features here:
Breaking Complexity Podcast is a platform where we unravel the intricate, the abstract, and the unconventional across design, technology, creativity, and entrepreneurship.
Curated and co-hosted by Sushant Verma—an architect, technologist, educator, and four-time TEDx speaker—this podcast brings together thought leaders, trailblazers, and visionaries who challenge norms and redefine industries.
Each episode explores how complexity is broken down into innovation, strategy, and creative breakthroughs, sparking engaging discussions that are thought-provoking, insightful, and fun.
️ Streaming on: Spotify | Apple Podcasts | Google Podcasts | YouTube | Podcast Website
Featuring: Experts in design, architecture, technology, business, and creative fields
Format: Dynamic two-way & three-way conversations with deep insights into complex ideas
The Breaking Complexity Podcast brings together pioneers from architecture, design, AI, real estate, creative business, and emerging technology—exploring how they navigate uncertainty, innovation, and curvilinear career paths.
Does creativity require complexity? Or are we just flirting with technology?
Season 0 is the prelude to Breaking Complexity Podcast, a playful yet profound look at how technology has become an integral part of design, architecture, and creative processes. It brings together insights from Sushant Verma’s past TEDx talks, public discussions, and design dialogues with global pioneers.
A mix of fresh recordings and curated excerpts from TEDx talks, public panels, and industry discussions.
Candid insights from design pioneers & global experts from firms like Zaha Hadid Architects, Mamou-Mani Architects, Heatherwick Studio, Foster + Partners, Architectural Association (AADRL), Bartlett UCL, and more.
Deep dives into AI, computational design, digital fabrication, and emerging creative technology.
Season 0 is centered around Sushant Verma, unfolding his journey, the evolution of rat[LAB] Studio, and his experiences with design technology. It also includes glimpses from his interviews with pioneers conducted for his upcoming book, Filling the Void: Rise of Design Technologies in Architecture.
1️⃣ Flirting with Design Technologies – An Unfinished Love Story ️
2️⃣ When AI and Architecture Went on a Date ️
3️⃣ Beyond Facades – Breaking the Grid & Embracing Nonlinearity
4️⃣ Smart Education – Teaching Machines or Teaching Minds?
5️⃣ The Struggles of Dating Technology – Love, Hate & Innovation
6️⃣ Digital Fabrication – Building the Future, One Algorithm at a Time ️️
7️⃣ The Art of Complexity – Parametric Art & Algorithmic Aesthetics
8️⃣ Collaborative Flirting – When Disciplines Merge
Season 1 takes a bold, witty, and unconventional look at complexity through the lens of curves—both literal and metaphorical.
From curvilinear architecture and design innovations to nonlinear career trajectories and unconventional business strategies, this season uncovers the power of breaking the straight line.
Expect candid conversations with risk-takers, creative minds, and innovators who are shaping the future in design, business, and technology.
Topics include:
️ Curvilinear facades & interiors
️ Nonlinear career journeys
️ The business of bending rules
️ Digital fabrication & computational design
️ The philosophy of curves in nature, design, and life
Join us as we challenge conventions and reshape the narrative of complexity.
Follow Breaking Complexity Podcast for updates, guest announcements, and new episodes!
Architect | Design Technologist | Educator with 15+ years of experience in cutting-edge architecture & computational design.
Four-time TEDx Speaker – sharing insights on computational design, AI in architecture & the future of design education.
Published Author – currently working on new publications focused on design, technology & innovation.
Educator & Mentor – upskilled 3,000+ architects & designers across India and led 7 Global Visiting Schools in the UK, USA, Italy, Taiwan, Japan, Egypt, the Philippines, Ukraine, and Belarus.
️ Founder of RAT[LAB] Studio – pioneering parametric & computational design, creating futuristic facades, urban interventions, art installations & algorithm-driven spaces. Making every project iconic, no matter the size or scale!
️ Host of Breaking Complexity Podcast – engaging with leaders & innovators across industries who are redefining the future.
Avid Photographer – capturing different genres for many years as a creative passion.
Passionate about entrepreneurship, meaningful conversations & smart networking – always up for discussing design, creativity, technology & the future of architecture.
Check out Sushant Verma’s TEDx talks & global features here:

3️⃣ When AI and Architecture Went on a Date (Ft. Sushant Verma // rat[LAB]; Host: Gauri Goyal)
Episode Overview:
Welcome to Episode 3 of Breaking Complexity Podcast – Season 0: Flirting with Design Technologies! ️️
Artificial Intelligence isn’t just about algorithms crunching numbers anymore—it’s entering studios, classrooms, and construction sites, reashaping the way architects think, design, and build. But should AI be trusted as a co-creator? Or is it still just a curious experiment?
This episode dives into the romance and friction between AI and Architecture—when design intelligence meets machine intelligence.
What to Expect in This Episode?
️ First Dates with AI – Why architects are both fascinated and skeptical
️ The Good, The Bad & The Overhyped – Where AI truly helps vs. where it fails
️ The Early Career Dilemma – Should young designers depend on AI?
️ Symbiotic Workflows – When computational design meets generative AI
️ Beyond Tools – How AI could reshape education, practice & creativity
Is AI a collaborator, a disruptor, or just another passing trend in design? Hear it straight from the lens of computational design expert Sushant Verma in conversation with Gauri Goyal.
Watch, Subscribe & Stay Tuned!
Follow @BreakingComplexityPodcast for more design-tech conversations!
About the Curator – Sushant Verma
Architect | Design Technologist | Educator with 15+ years of experience in computational design & architecture
Four-time TEDx Speaker – on AI, design futures & computational design
Author & Researcher – exploring the rise of design technologies in architecture
Mentor – trained 3,000+ architects & designers globally
️ Founder of rat[LAB] Studio – pushing boundaries of facades, interiors & parametric art (www.rat-lab.org
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Passionate about AI, creativity & the future of human–machine collaboration
Explore Sushant’s TEDx talks & global features:
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About Breaking Complexity Podcast
Breaking Complexity Podcast unravels the intricate, the abstract, and the unconventional across design, technology, creativity, and entrepreneurship.
Season 0 is the prelude—a playful yet profound look at how technology flirts with architecture and creative practices. It weaves insights from Sushant Verma’s journey, rat[LAB] Studio’s evolution, and dialogues with pioneers shaping the future of design.
Episode Highlights (Season 0):
1️⃣ Flirting with Design Technologies – An Unfinished Love Story
2️⃣ Beyond Facades – Breaking the Grid & Embracing Nonlinearity
3️⃣ When AI and Architecture Went on a Date ️️
4️⃣ Smart Education – Teaching Machines or Teaching Minds?
5️⃣ The Struggles of Dating Technology – Love, Hate & Innovation
6️⃣ Digital Fabrication – Building the Future, One Algorithm at a Time
7️⃣ The Art of Complexity – Parametric Art & Algorithmic Aesthetics
8️⃣ Collaborative Flirting – When Disciplines Merge