
In this fun and heartfelt conversation, Dan sits down with Chen — often seen as the picture of strength and independence — to uncover the real stories behind the image. Chen opens up about overcoming life’s challenges, navigating heartbreak, and learning to live on her own for the first time in her mid-thirties.
She reflects on how her views on having children have evolved, shares her personal definition of success, and talks about finding happiness on her own terms.
This episode is an honest, inspiring look at growing older, gaining maturity, and building a mindset that brings true contentment. Plus, a candid take on how relationships differ across generations, from Millennials to Gen Z.
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