This week, we continue our assessment of the Trump-Putin and Trump-Zelensky meetings in August. European leaders can take solace in the fact that their presence at the Washington meeting means that their views are not being entirely ignored, but significant outstanding questions remain relating to how the discussions of western security guarantees for Ukraine could materialize. Now that any appearance of momentum from the meetings has petered out, we take stock of European leaders’ takeaways from the Washington meeting and where Europe goes from here in its efforts to support Ukraine. To share their views on the future of the European security order, we are very happy to welcome Shashank Joshi and Janis Kluge. Shashank Joshi is the Defense Editor at The Economist  Janis Kluge is Senior Associate at the German Institute for International and Security Affairs (SWP) in Berlin, Germany