In this conversation, Jose Cruz and Joseph Lucido discuss the evolving landscape of architectural education, focusing on affordability, the role of community colleges, and the importance of sustainability. Lucido emphasizes the need for equitable transfer agreements and the integration of practical skills in the curriculum. The discussion highlights the challenges faced by students due to high education costs and the changing role of architects in society. Lucido advocates for a collaborative approach in the architectural community and calls for support for local educational programs to nurture the next generation of architects.   Takeaways Architectural education is a powerful tool but comes with high costs. Community colleges can provide affordable pathways to architecture careers. Transfer agreements must be equitable to support student success. Sustainability should be a primary focus in architectural education. The role of the architect is evolving with technology and societal needs. Students need to understand both design and construction methodologies. Collaboration among various stakeholders is essential for successful architecture. Teaching should balance technical skills with creative exploration. The future of architecture requires a focus on building performance and sustainability. Support for local community colleges is crucial for the next generation of architects.