The conversation between Donna and Yakov Lasker explores the rollback of DEI (Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion) initiatives in corporations, noting a shift from 2020's commitments to quiet rollbacks by 2025. They discuss the influence of financial priorities over genuine values, the systemic nature of corporate decision-making, and the importance of maintaining consistent principles despite external pressures. The discussion emphasizes the need for leaders to uphold real values, even when it costs them, and to focus on substantial changes rather than performative actions.#DEI, #CorporateValues, #Leadership, #FinancialPressure, #SystemicChange, #Consistency, #GenuineCommitment