SN 04 EP 04 with James Odongo a trained urban planner and the Chief Administrative Officer at KEPRO (Kenya Extended Producer Responsibility Organisation) He left master planning behind to focus on advocacy and research with the objective of working towards a sustainable future for Kenya. He is currently the CEO of KEPRO, whose purpose is to accelerate the growth of Kenya's recycling ecosystem, leading to a circular economy that will protect our natural environment and create jobs for our future generations. Join us as we talk about his experience with master planning and why he chose to specifically focus on research.