344 - When Sober and Successful doesn't mean Joyous and Free feat. Michael Oakley from Built By The Red Stick! Greetings, Congregation! This week is a special treat. Jed brings on an old friend, who the congregation may know as an attendee of the very drug school Jed went to from the "things I heard at drug school" segment from years ago! Mike went on to become a success story in the treatment industry, doing everything from maintenance to opening his own treatment facility..he did it all. Then, this past year he lost the plot, and had to seek treatment for depression and burnout, something Jed can relate to well. He hosts the Built by the Red Stick podcast, and you can find that anywhere! music: wave by TDWP and Depressed Mode by Astronoid builtbytheredstick.com popnerdstudios.myshopify.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices