In this episode, Kumar shares a dark confession with Michael during the service. They listen to Shasta Nelson, author of The Business of Friendship, during the sermon. They discuss everything from country music to promise rings. You won't want to miss this episode. Here is a LINK to Shasta's book. 

Note: You can listen to the full-length episode with Shasta over on Kumar's other show, The Concierge Minister Podcast.