Rationalisation, conformity, impunity, ownership: tune in to hear the story of two remarkable environmental defenders Maria and Zé Cláudio – through the lens of criminal psychology. In conversation with Climate Curious co-hosts Ben Hurst and Maryam Pasha, join criminal psychologist Dr. Julia Shaw to ask, why are land defenders getting killed in climate conflict zones such as The Amazon Rainforest, who is killing them, and what can we do to protect them? Featuring excerpts from capable guardian Paulo Busse, an environmental and human rights lawyer. 

Learn more in Julia’s new book, ‘Green Crime’, https://linktr.ee/drjuliashaw 

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