In this episode, Ole Lensmar joins Richard Li, founder of Polar Sky, to explore how testing strategies must evolve for the age of AI. They discuss the journey of cloud-native tools like Telepresence and Richard's key insight for agentic coding: using automated tests as the "context" to guide AI behavior, rather than relying on complex prompts to describe system rules. The conversation also digs into the mechanics of building AI-driven software, emphasizing why "evals" are critical for measuri...
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In this episode, Ole Lensmar joins Richard Li, founder of Polar Sky, to explore how testing strategies must evolve for the age of AI. They discuss the journey of cloud-native tools like Telepresence and Richard's key insight for agentic coding: using automated tests as the "context" to guide AI behavior, rather than relying on complex prompts to describe system rules. The conversation also digs into the mechanics of building AI-driven software, emphasizing why "evals" are critical for measuri...
Governance Isn’t a Dirty Word: Making Policy Part of the Dev Flow with Joe Karlsson
Cloud Native Testing Podcast
25 minutes
5 months ago
Governance Isn’t a Dirty Word: Making Policy Part of the Dev Flow with Joe Karlsson
In this episode of the Cloud Native Testing Podcast, Ole Lensmar sits down with Joe Karlsson, Developer Advocate at CloudQuery, to discuss how testing and governance intersect in today’s fast-moving cloud-native environments. They explore what it takes to catch issues like cloud drift, overly permissive configurations, and deprecated services—before they become costly outages. Joe shares real-world insights from his work helping teams bake governance into CI/CD pipelines without slowing down ...
Cloud Native Testing Podcast
In this episode, Ole Lensmar joins Richard Li, founder of Polar Sky, to explore how testing strategies must evolve for the age of AI. They discuss the journey of cloud-native tools like Telepresence and Richard's key insight for agentic coding: using automated tests as the "context" to guide AI behavior, rather than relying on complex prompts to describe system rules. The conversation also digs into the mechanics of building AI-driven software, emphasizing why "evals" are critical for measuri...