In this episode, Ole Lensmar joins Richard Li, founder of Polar Sky, to explore how testing strategies must evolve for the age of AI. They discuss the journey of cloud-native tools like Telepresence and Richard's key insight for agentic coding: using automated tests as the "context" to guide AI behavior, rather than relying on complex prompts to describe system rules. The conversation also digs into the mechanics of building AI-driven software, emphasizing why "evals" are critical for measuri...
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In this episode, Ole Lensmar joins Richard Li, founder of Polar Sky, to explore how testing strategies must evolve for the age of AI. They discuss the journey of cloud-native tools like Telepresence and Richard's key insight for agentic coding: using automated tests as the "context" to guide AI behavior, rather than relying on complex prompts to describe system rules. The conversation also digs into the mechanics of building AI-driven software, emphasizing why "evals" are critical for measuri...
Modeling Over Mocking: Building Realistic Test Systems for Cloud Native Apps with Oleg Nenashev
Cloud Native Testing Podcast
30 minutes
7 months ago
Modeling Over Mocking: Building Realistic Test Systems for Cloud Native Apps with Oleg Nenashev
In this episode, Ole sits down with Oleg Nenashev—CNCF Ambassador, open source advocate, Jenkins Maintainer, and Lead Developer Advocate at Gradle—to unpack the evolving world of cloud native testing. From the rise of integration testing to the role of tools like Testcontainers and WireMock, Oleg shares why modeling realistic systems is more powerful (and more reliable) than traditional mocking. They explore the complexities of testing in Kubernetes and why Java is experiencing a renaissance ...
Cloud Native Testing Podcast
In this episode, Ole Lensmar joins Richard Li, founder of Polar Sky, to explore how testing strategies must evolve for the age of AI. They discuss the journey of cloud-native tools like Telepresence and Richard's key insight for agentic coding: using automated tests as the "context" to guide AI behavior, rather than relying on complex prompts to describe system rules. The conversation also digs into the mechanics of building AI-driven software, emphasizing why "evals" are critical for measuri...
