Catie interviews Professor Leigh Goodmark, JD, who serves as the Marjorie Cooke Professor of Law at
the University of Maryland Carey School of Law where she directs the Gender Violence Clinic. Professor
Goodmark represents criminalized survivors of domestic violence and trains students to represent
victims of violence. She and Catie discuss how the criminal and legal system can harm victims and
further the perpetration of violence. Professor Goodmark discusses how her passion to mitigate further
trauma and harm to criminalized survivors led her on a journey to identifying as an abolitionist.

The Gender Policy Report: Decriminalizing Domestic Violence: Economic, Public Health,
and Community Solutions

Content/Trigger Warning: Please note, content discussed in these conversations are related to
violence, abuse, and victimization. Episodes often contain content that may be alarming to
some listeners.