in this episode, we delve into a thought provoking conversation with Louise Binder, an advocate who began her journey in the HIV space. drawing insights from the roots of patient advocacy in the HIV community, we navigate the intricate distinctions between advocacy and activism and louise shares invaluable perspectives on how HIV advocates successfully spearheaded transformative changes for patients. we explore the nuances between advocacy and activism while addressing the question of why some may argue that cancer is perceived as less important to cure than HIV.