Welcome to this thought-provoking episode of Contra Talk where we dive in to the Southern Baptist Convention, American church culture, and the challenges of leadership in today's society. Joining me today is Dr. Mark Coppenger, an esteemed theologian and cultural commentator, to shed light on the pressing issues facing the SBC and the broader American church. We'll explore the complex landscape of theological debates, internal divisions, and cultural clashes that have given rise to critical questions about the church's role in the modern world, resolution 9 being a scam, covid and how it was used by many in and outside the church among many other things. Dr. Coppenger will also address the significance of strong, principled men, emphasizing the importance of doing what is right when conviction is needed most. So, fasten your seatbelts as we embark on a journey through the intricate dynamics of Christian faith, culture, and moral courage in the 21st century with our distinguished guest, Dr. Mark Coppenger.