In this episode of Cosmic Confluence, host Sana sits down with Dr. Amy and Roy Clark. a married duo who blend psychology, counseling experience, faith and design thinking to help couples move from autopilot to real intimacy. Drawing from their work with countless couples and their book “The Four Intimacies. Unlocking the Love You Desire” plus their brand Aria Luxury Lubricants, they break down why advice alone does not change relationships and what it actually takes to shift daily habits. They unpack the four pillars. verbal, emotional, physical and spiritual intimacy. how to use humble language like “I could be wrong” to de escalate conflict. why eye contact is 90% of body language. and how “5% conversations” create safety for the hardest truths. Dr. Amy and Roy also talk openly about sexual connection, security and pleasure, and how spiritual intimacy can exist even when partners do not share the same theology. If you want practical, non fluffy tools you can test this week in your relationship, this conversation goes straight to the point. About the Guests: Dr. Amy and Roy Clark are a married counseling and coaching team and co founders of Aria Luxury Lubricants and Aria Lux Life. With backgrounds in clinical counseling, pastoral work and long term couples therapy, they specialize in helping partners rebuild trust, communication and desire through their framework. The Four Intimacies. verbal, emotional, physical and spiritual. Through their book, products and private work, they focus on practical rituals and language that couples can actually use at home. not just on a retreat weekend. Key Takeaways: Intimacy is not just sex. it is about being on the same page verbally, emotionally, physically and spiritually so both partners feel seen and safe. Verbal intimacy starts with humility. phrases like “I could be wrong, help me understand…” keep conversations curious instead of combative and reduce defensiveness. Emotional intimacy is built through empathy, validation and “yielding” your next response so you can fully listen instead of mentally preparing your comeback. Nonverbal cues matter. consistent eye contact and facing your partner signals “I am here with you” far more than polished speeches. The “5% conversation” is a permission based way to bring up the hardest truths. you schedule it, name it and treat it with tenderness instead of dumping it in the heat of the moment. Great sex needs both security and pleasure. security comes from verbal and emotional intimacy, clear communication, no shaming and the freedom to ask for what you want. Tools like Aria Luxury Lubricants, intimacy cards, and yes no maybe lists are not criticism of a partner. they are shared rituals that make connection feel intentional and less awkward. Spiritual intimacy does not require identical beliefs. it can be a shared vision that “we is greater than me” plus open, non judgmental exploration of each other’s views on faith, purpose and mystery. How Listeners Can Connect With Dr. Amy and Roy: Website: http://www.royandamy.com/ Book/Framework: The Four Intimacies Products and resources: Intimacy cards and refined essentials via the website General inquiries: Use the contact form on http://www.royandamy.com/   Sensitive but compliant themes present. Adult sexual intimacy in long term relationships Mention of childhood abuse in a general, non graphic way Faith and spirituality brought into conversations about sex and marriage All of these are framed for education, healing and relationship improvement, which is generally permitted.   Want to be a guest on Cosmic Confluence? DM on PM - Send me a message on PodMatch DM Me Here. https://www.podmatch.com/hostdetailpreview/avik Disclaimer. This video is for educational and informational purposes only. The views expressed are the personal opinions of the guest and do not reflect the views of the host or Healthy Mind By Avik™️. We do not intend to harm, d