Making his rounds around the Strive Pod-verse, host of 'The JTM' Jude McClaren, joins Michael & Spencer for some expansive discussion. After an introduction of who Jude is and what he has going on, the three discuss the NFL at large, asking questions regarding the Cowboys hierarchy, comparing NFC favorite Buccaneers and Saints, as well as giving predictions for the renewed postseason layout. The three also discuss their encounter with one another in a recent pick-up basketball game, and how Jude earned the nickname "TM no J". Presented by the Strive Network.