On Christmas Eve in 2022, 26-year-old beautician Elle Edwards was shot while outside her local pub on the Wirral in Liverpool. A lone gunman, targeting someone standing near to Elle opened fire and she was caught in the crossfire. 

Many described this murder as senseless and it caused great upset within the community, leaving many asking questions surrounding gun violence and what can be done to stop it. Jonathan Humphries, a journalist for the BBC and former Crime Correspondent for the Liverpool Echo, joins Dermot to discuss why there has been a surge in gun and gang violence and how it can be tackled.

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