Courtney Donovan Smith (石東文) and guest Sean Su (蘇襄) discuss the total blowout regarding Kaohsiung Mayor's Han Kuo-Yu's recall vote, what the scene was like on the ground, how this might be a victory of youth activism against populism and demogoguery, Han and Chiang press conferences, Han's future going forward, what this means for the KMT, who the DPP might choose as interim mayor, and possible DPP and KMT candidates for mayor after that.

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