In this episode of Current Conversations, powered by Master Electricians Australia, host Kate Raymond, CEO of Master Electricians Australia, and Jordon Carlisle, Workplace Relations Manager, MEA  chat with Penny Cornah, CEO of the Master Plumbers Association of Queensland.  They explore the friendly rivalry between plumbers and electricians, discussing workplace banter and its potential mental health impacts. The conversation delves into significant industry challenges, such as licensing issues, security of payment, unfair contract terms, the impact of insolvencies, and the skills shortage affecting both trades. The episode also highlights the collaborative efforts of electricians and plumbers to advocate for better industry regulations and support from the government. Time-stamped Highlights:   00:00 Introduction to Current Conversations 00:12 Meet the Hosts and Guest: Penny Cornah 00:26 Plumbers vs. Sparkies: The Rivalry 01:31 The Impact of Banter on Mental Health 03:27 Collaboration Between Trades 06:45 Addressing the Skills Shortage 14:01 Challenges in Contracting and Procurement 24:11 The Importance of Licensing 27:09 Conclusion and Key Takeaways Produced by The Podcast Boss.