Dan Dodson and cybersecurity expert T.J. Ramsey discussed the escalation of ransomware attacks in healthcare, emphasizing that ransomware is a form of extortion malware used primarily for financial gain, with attackers operating like organized crime syndicates. Ramsey traced his journey from military intelligence to cybersecurity, explained the operational and financial pressures making healthcare a vulnerable target, and described the typical sequence and negotiation process of a ransomware attack—from initial triage and threat actor communications to the challenges in paying ransoms. Throughout, both stressed patient safety, expectation management, and the emotional toll on executives during crises.