In this episode, we sit down with Brian Carbaugh, CEO and Co-Founder of Andesite, to unpack one of the most unconventional founder journeys in cybersecurity.Brian spent 25 years at the CIA, serving in special operations, covert action, and ultimately leading the agency’s Special Activities Center. Today, he’s building a well-funded AI-for-SOC company in one of the most crowded and competitive markets in tech.We dig into:• How a career in intelligence shaped Brian’s approach to leadership, risk, and company-building• Why Andesite is taking a contrarian stance on AI in the SOC by putting analysts, not automation, at the centre• What’s broken about today’s “replace the analyst” narrative in cybersecurity• How the AI SOC market has exploded and what actually differentiates vendors beyond hype• Why Andesite chose a company-builder and foundry model over traditional venture funding• The strategic decision to prioritise compliance and trust from day one• The realities of transitioning from national security to startup chaosThis conversation goes deep on human-first AI, trust in cybersecurity, and what it really takes to build an enterprise-grade company in a noisy market.Brian's LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/brian-carbaugh-38b339243/Andesite - https://www.linkedin.com/company/andesiteai/Oliver's LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/oliverlegg/Aspiron Search - https://www.linkedin.com/company/aspiron-search/