Data Security Decoded provides actionable, vendor-agnostic insights to reduce data security risk and improve resilience outcomes. Designed for cybersecurity and IT professionals who want practical insights on preparing for attacks before they happen, so they can respond effectively when they inevitably do. Episodes feature insights from researchers, crafters of public policy, and senior cybersecurity leaders, to help organizations reduce risk and improve resilience. Data Security Decoded provides practical advice, proven strategies, and in-depth discussions on the latest trends and challenges in data security, helping listeners strengthen their organizations' defenses and recovery plans.
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Data Security Decoded provides actionable, vendor-agnostic insights to reduce data security risk and improve resilience outcomes. Designed for cybersecurity and IT professionals who want practical insights on preparing for attacks before they happen, so they can respond effectively when they inevitably do. Episodes feature insights from researchers, crafters of public policy, and senior cybersecurity leaders, to help organizations reduce risk and improve resilience. Data Security Decoded provides practical advice, proven strategies, and in-depth discussions on the latest trends and challenges in data security, helping listeners strengthen their organizations' defenses and recovery plans.
In this episode of Data Security Decoded, join host Caleb Tolin as he welcomes back Joe Hladik, Head of Rubrik Zero Labs, to unpack the findings from their new report, Identity Crisis: Understanding & Building Resilience Against Identity-Driven Threats, Joe breaks down how the explosion of non-human identities, from API keys to AI agents, is rewriting the threat landscape and forcing security leaders to rethink the perimeter itself.
He explains why identity resilience is the new foundation of cyber defense, how to prioritize recovery when every system matters, and what steps teams can take now to stay ahead of emerging agentic AI-driven attacks.
What You'll Learn:
Why identity has replaced the network as the modern security perimeter
How non-human identities outnumber humans 82 to 1, and what that means for control and monitoring
Practical steps to build recovery plans around dependency mapping and minimal viable operations
Why ransom payments remain high and how better resilience planning can reverse that trend
How threat actors exploit backup systems to gain total business leverage
What agentic AI really means for cyber defense and how to prepare for its impact
The episode offers a clear framework for leaders to transform identity resilience from a reactive measure into a proactive pillar of enterprise security.
Episode Highlights:
[05:13] The 82:1 Ratio: Why Non-Human Identities Now Define Risk
[07:03] Prioritizing Recovery: Building for Minimal Viable Operations
[10:53] Declining Recovery Confidence and the Rise of Ransom Payments
[15:46] Backups Under Attack: How Threat Actors Seize Business Control
[16:32] Agentic AI and the Shifting Nature of Cyber Threats
[25:32] What Defenders Can Do Now to Build Identity Resilience
Episode Resources
Caleb Tolin on LinkedIn
Joe Hladik on LinkedIn
Rubrik Zero Labs report, Identity Crisis: Understanding & Building Resilience Against Identity-Driven Threats
Data Security Decoded
Data Security Decoded provides actionable, vendor-agnostic insights to reduce data security risk and improve resilience outcomes. Designed for cybersecurity and IT professionals who want practical insights on preparing for attacks before they happen, so they can respond effectively when they inevitably do. Episodes feature insights from researchers, crafters of public policy, and senior cybersecurity leaders, to help organizations reduce risk and improve resilience. Data Security Decoded provides practical advice, proven strategies, and in-depth discussions on the latest trends and challenges in data security, helping listeners strengthen their organizations' defenses and recovery plans.
