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Dialectic
Jackson Dahl
34 episodes
6 days ago
Conversational portraits of original people, across technology, media, business, and creativity. By Jackson Dahl.
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26: Cyan Banister - A Fool’s Dérive
Dialectic
1 hour 59 minutes 16 seconds
4 months ago
26: Cyan Banister - A Fool’s Dérive

Cyan Banister (Website, X, Substack) is an investor, artist, and co-founder and General Partner of Long Journey Ventures. Previously, Cyan spent four years at Founders Fund and has a legendary angel investing track record alongside her husband, Scott, including early rounds in SpaceX, Uber, and DeepMind.


Cyan is as original as they come: she grew up on a Navajo reservation and was homeless by 15, with a series of unlikely serendipitous moments combined with optimism, agency, and love of capitalism taking her to a very different life than the one she grew up with. I focused this conversation not on Cyan's work, but her unique approach to living.


We begin with Cyan’s “church”: a weekly visit to see Bobby McFerrin and co. do live, jazz acapella in Berkeley, CA. We discuss how this space ties to presence, openness, and play, and then talk about the tension between novelty and consistency as she continues on her own path toward self-love and mindfulness. She also tells me about her radical approach to accountability and the empowering results of assuming that everything is her fault.


One of Cyan's favorite words is the French dérive, or an intentional drift, and it embodies her approach to the world. She moves with childlike wonder, seeking to see things and people from new perspectives and challenging others to react beyond their default settings. She daydreams about the outcomes she wants and has remarkable conviction and faith even when others do not believe her.


We wrap with a grab bag representative of Cyan's diverse interests, from filmmaking and performance art to the US Constitution to Bill Murray. Cyan manages to combine randomness and intentionality, naiveté and sober-minded awareness, humility and conviction. I hope you are are as inspired as I am to live more playfully, seriously, and courageously.


Full transcript is available at https://dialectic.fm/cyan-banister


Timestamps

  • 0:01:23: Intro
  • 0:03:45: Cyan's "Church"
  • 0:16:21: Stillness, Mindfulness, and Introspection
  • 0:28:47: Learning to See in Original Ways
  • 0:39:38: People: When the "Light is On," "Collecting Minds," and Conjuring Friends
  • 0:46:55: Cultivating Childlike Joy and Refusing to be a Victim
  • 0:52:30: Radical Accountability
  • 0:56:28: Randomness, Faith, and Experimentation
  • 1:06:22: Conviction and Peter Thiel
  • 1:12:54: Returning to Seed Investing and Long Journey Ventures
  • 1:18:23: Thoughts on Art
  • 1:23:42: Performance Art
  • 1:26:37: Cyan's Creative Projects
  • 1:32:51: Boredom
  • 1:36:06: Living Around Elderly People
  • 1:42:14: Pete Buttigieg
  • 1:45:57: Being a Role Model
  • 1:48:26: Young People's Future
  • 1:52:46: Scott Banister and Lessons for Her Kids
  • 1:55:35: "It Just Doesn't Matter" And Who Pulls the Strings


Key Links

  • Cyan - by Kevin Gee and Dan Scott - Cloud Valley
  • Cyan Banister — From Homeless and Broke to Top Angel Investor - Tim Ferriss
  • Investing for a Higher Purpose - Invest like the Best
  • Bobby McFerrin
  • University of Texas at Austin 2014 Commencement Address - Admiral William H. McRaven
  • Example of Motion and Bobby's performance
  • The Magic Glasses - Frank Harris
  • My Life and Loves - Frank Harris
  • Lee Jacobs
  • BILL MURRAY TALKS ABOUT THE PAINTING THAT SAVED HIS LIFE
  • The Diamond Age: Or, a Young Lady's Illustrated Primer - Neal Stephenson | Goodreads
  • It Just Doesn't Matter! - Meatballs (1979)
  • ‎The Razor's Edge (1984)
  • Bill Murray gives a surprising and meaningful answer you might not expect. (Charlie Rose)


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Dialectic
Conversational portraits of original people, across technology, media, business, and creativity. By Jackson Dahl.