In this special episode, the brothers sit down with sailing legend Jess Watson - who, at just 16 years old, became the youngest person to sail solo, non-stop and unassisted around the world.

Jess shares her insights on fear, focus, and finding purpose in the middle of the ocean. They talk about what it means to be truly alone, how to build resilience through routine, and the challenges that come after the finish line.

It’s a conversation about adventure, identity, and what happens when you chase something bigger than yourself.

Dinner with The Macleans is a podcast recorded entirely at sea, as three Scottish brothers row unsupported across the Pacific Ocean - from Peru to Australia.