In this episode we enlist a different Furlong, Dr. Jack Furlong, to help us untangle morality and determine if there really is such a thing as big M morality, as Sarah calls it. <spoiler alert>  Jack, after a very in depth explanation, says "No".  Jack invokes the classic Trolley thought experiment to illustrate why various historical positions on morality stumble when confronted with the scenario and asks which big M morality system should be employed when resolving the trolley dilemma. Jack also challenges the view that morality in humans is either unique or exceptional. We also discussed how morality may show up in non-human animals and Jack cleared up for James the proper term to use when referring to more than a single octopus.  We also discussed if an octopus would have morality. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/may/12/octopus-farming-unethical-and-threat-to-food-chain The opening and closing theme to Discovering Darwin is "May" by Jared C. Balogh. Interlude music ENCOMIUM by Evan Schaeffer Music Studios | https://soundcloud.com/evanschaeffer Music promoted by https://www.free-stock-music.com Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 Unported License https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/deed.en_US The Cure - Close to You